And I think that's something a lot of people deal with. It's hard to feel like a manly man, and to feel validated as a man, and admit that you're struggling with something that's eating you from the inside. Sermon: There is like the stigma attached to it, you know. I wondered whether your being artists helped that or hurt that? I mean, part of your job as artists is to articulate for people what other people cannot. I do think for a lot of men it is hard to talk about.

And so, I don't know, even if we tried to hide things from each other I think it would not work for very long. You're with these people more than anyone else, and more than you've ever been with even your family. Wayne Sermon: I don't really know how you could possibly hide anything from your band members. It was a tricky thing, but we're all really close and they were with me through it a 100 percent. It was cool because we were able to speak up with each other about meeting a therapist and what was that like. Wayne has also dealt with depression for years, and so both of us went through it together in a lot of ways. It was probably the worst that I'd ever had and it got to a point where I really had to go seek help, and I decided to talk about it because I think that it's something that a lot of people hide. But I think it was really overwhelming for me and I ended up kind of going through a year of really heavy depression. All of these really beautiful, wonderful things happened. But would typically come in three- to six-month bouts, and after the record came out, I think so much happened at once. Reynolds: You know, I've dealt with it since I was young.

You've been very open about the depression that hit at the height of when you were touring.

We'd been touring straight at that point for - I wanna say, seven years straight? So yeah, I think we just all needed it to reconnect with normal life and home and family and just to get grounded. Michel Martin: How did your sabbatical come about? Was it an agreement that all of you made that, after a certain point, you'd jump off the train for a minute?ĭan Reynolds: I think it was a necessity.

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